ROUThost DNS problems; GoDaddy and Security through Obscurity
The external-facing web site and (internal use) mailing list for the ambulance corps is hosted by ROUThost. Not my choice, it was inherited. ROUThost, first off, appears to be a fly-by-night hosting provider that just buys a few boxes in a colo facility. I should have known to raise a stink when they say you need to fax a copy of your driver’s license to get SSH turned on, and that you have to agree – in legalese – not to mess with anyone else’s configs. Well, last night, DNS for the site went down. As in nothing, wouldn’t resolve at all. I submitted a ticket online for ROUThost’s “24×7″ support – by the way, they don’t have a phone number, only an online ticket form. After 2h 34m 40s of downtime, the issue resolved itself and I downgraded the ticket from “critical” to medium. Now, 11 hours later, it still hasn’t been replied to. And my emails to support and management – 2 hours ago – are unanswered.
Once the problem started, I knew the yearly contract with ROUThost was a bad idea – even at $35/year USD. So, given the great experience I’ve had with them as registrar for my myriad domains, I took a look at >GoDaddy’s site. They offer shared hosting at around $4/month (for shared on a Linux box) and are currently offering some deals, so I figured it would be a good idea. I know and trust GoDaddy’s support, and have had an account with them for quite some time.
The ambulance corp’s web site, hosted through ROUThost, does essentially three things; provide a minimal web presence (the whole web root is probably < 1Mb minus the photo albums), five e-mail forwarders for the officers and a GNU MailMan mailing list for internal business. Unfortunately, I couldn’t find anything in their “features” list mentioning MialMan or any other listserv, or even what MTA/MDA they run.
I put a call in to GoDaddy “Sales/Support”. The poor guy had never heard of MailMan, but asked “one of the hosting guys” and was told it would only be supported on dedicate hosting accounts. Not exactly financially feasible for a mailing list with 30 subscribers, maybe 2 messages a day, and a monthly HTTP transfer of under 20Mb. I was told their shared hosting packages don’t include any mailing list/listserv software, though they include every CMS and language known to man. Hell-bent to get away from ROUThost, I then asked if they ran an MDA that supported piping mail to a command, as can be done with .procmailrc. After a brief hold (not to sound cynical, but I’m sure the gentleman was looking up “MDA”) he came back on the line and told me they didn’t. I then switched to problem-solving mode and asked what MTA and MDA they were running. Another brief hold, and I was told “I can’t tell you that”. Speechless for a moment, I asked what that meant; “we don’t give out that information”. Just about ready to begin explaining SMTP headers, I gave up and thanked him for his time.
Ok, so Sales probably doesn’t understand SMTP headers. I’d considered trying to find mail from a GoDaddy Linux hosted box and check the headers, but I figured I couldn’t do that before the call ended. So, now I’m left with a dilemma. ROUThost is not, in my opinion, reliable, and their support is flat-out nonexistent. 11 hours is far too long to wait for a reply to a “critical” ticket when someone claims 24×7 support. However, by previous experience, GoDaddy would be my next choice – but not only do they ot support mailing lists – arguably the most used feature of our current hosted account – but they won’t even tell a customer what MTA they’re running. I’m too let down by this to telnet 25 on one of their boxes and see what happens.
So what’s left? I guess waiting until (hopefully some time within the next few weeks) I upgrade to Optimum static IP at home, and consider running it all there (and hope mains power never goes out for more than 30 minutes?)

I used Routhost for almost 5 years. They had great customer service. I was happy with them so I added another site with them. Their website promised Ruby on Rails and Fantisco both services on my other site. When I logged in to the new account neither of these we available. It took three days to answer my emails and they we not willing to make this right. Then I had problems with my existing site and again it took three days to answer my emails and after two weeks still has not fixed the problem. Now I am no longer a customer.
The domain in question expires next month, and I’ve moved DNS to GoDaddy. Hopefully I’ll soon be able to move the hosting too (maybe I’ll just do it myself? it’s just an informational web site, so the occasional downtime shouldn’t be an issue).
I have to say, my RoutHost experiences have just gone to further a theory on online business I’ve had for quite a while: unless it’s a major site like Ebay or Amazon, don’t do business with anyone who doesn’t provide you with a phone number that’s actually answered. This goes doubly for hosting or any other service.
assistance is inexperienced,
does not respond to requests from the client,
technically not respond to problems,
do not provide the service properly and using bad server.
Speed bad server,
response speed to the server no problems.
All servers are currently used by ROUTHOST NOT WORKING.
Email not working
The assistance does not meet the problems
They offer domain registration. Take it and paid, this domain they can not be offered recording.
I can not fix problems SiteBuilder is lost when the program files.
Send requests for payment for services that do not offer
If the site goes offline state that there is problem of SPAMMING.
Attention, I would advise you to avoid ROUTHOST because it is the worst WEB HOSTING in the world.
No guarantee of the state.
here is the result of their servers today, 03 June 2009
Server HTTP FTP POP3 PHP Info Server Load Uptime
whm1 PHP Info Not Available Not Available
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whm9 PHP Info Not Available Not Available